UPRR Geneva Subdivision Blog

I have moved my blog to blogspot.  To follow the progress on the NScale Union Pacific Railroad Geneva Subdivision go to genevasub.blogspot.com.

The final spike was set on the double track mainline of the UPRR Rochelle Subdivision.  To commemorate the event a short ceremony was held with  a few Union Pacific employees and executives in attendance.  Once the final spike was set, waiting trains were able to roll.  The action was captured on video and can viewed on youtube at the urls below. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VX9EtnOlU8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh5J3LvDWdg

Next up on the UPRR Geneva Sub to do list:

• Wire 16 Tortoise turnout motors from Nelson through Rochelle
• Connect the above turnouts to the computer system
• Install and paint backdrop from Franklin Grove through Rochelle (60 feet)
• Complete BNSF mainline
• Build lots of turnouts (67) for staging yards, Global III yard, and Proviso/Clinton yard.

Here’s some more photos from work done yesterday and today. A crossover using two #10 hand laid turnouts at the east end of Rochelle.  Instead of hand laying the four diamond crossing like I did on the previous layout, this time I am using Atlas 22.5 degrees code 55 crossings. I was never happy with the hand laid crossing I did on the Rochelle Sub. It took a ton of work, did not look right and always had shorting problems that I tried to solve with clear nail polish. Going with the Atlas crossings is much better.  Three views of Rochelle. I got some Masonite up for backdrop support. I am recycling a piece from the Rochelle Sub. As is a little clearer in these pictures, the BNSF line goes behind the backdrop, loops around through the bay window alcove and goes back to the east end of Rochelle where it can loop again and run through Rochelle again.

A lot of progress has been made since I last posted in January.  Below is a list.  Hopefully, very soon I will post some pictures and/or video.

1.  Finished taking down and discarding the Rochelle Sub.  After scavaging as much as I could, I cut up the layout pieces and put them out on the curb with the regular trash pick up.  There were a lot of pieces.  I put them out 3-5 pieces at a time over four or 5 pick up days.  I’m sure my garbage men were wondering what was going on.

2. I installed and wired all 17 mainline turnouts in East Clinton, Clinton and Proviso.   I also wired the 4 power districts and blocks in the area, including 20 blocks.
3.  Benchwork and tracklaying was done in the furnace room and bathroom.

4.  Benchwork for all 24 feet of Rochelle completed.

Video of the layout has been posted to youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMxxNHgfW7Q

Picture follow below.

I’ve finally begun tearing down the Rochelle Subdivision.  Below is a video showing some before and after shots. So far its going quicker than I anticipated.  Packing up the rolling stock took the longest amount of time, about 5 hours.  After a good soaking with water, the signals and track are coming up easier than I thought they would.  I plan to reuse the flex track in yards of the new layout.  I’ll be auctioning the turnouts on ebay.  I am hoping to have the entire room empty by the middle of February.

Daryl

Youtube Video

Fast Tracks turnout assembly fixtures have always intrigued me as a way to effectively and quickly build N scale code 55 turnouts.  However, the high cost of the assembly fixtures and related tools, plus already possessing experience hand laying code 55 turnouts without the assembly fixtures made the assembly fixtures a hard sell.

While planning my new layout, the UPRR Geneva Subdivision, I discovered that the Fast Tracks assembly fixtures might be a good buy after all.  The planning revealed that I was going to need about 100 turnouts, about 35 #10 turnouts for the double track mainline and about 65 #8 turnouts for the yards and sidings.  With such a high number of turnouts needing to be built, the cost factor of the assembly fixtures and related tools could be amortized to the point where the cost per turnout, excluding turnout motor, was below $4.  So, I decided to give the Fast Track assembly fixtures a try.  I ordered a #10 assembly fixture, a #10 point forming tool, a stock rail filing tool and a package of 100 N scale pc ties.

The items arrived from Fast Tracks right before Christmas vacation, so I had two weeks with extra time to try out the assembly fixtures.  So far I have assembled and installed 12 turnouts. Below is a list of my experience and impressions with the assembly fixture.  I have included some pictures but not a lot since the Fast Tracks website has lots of pictures, documentation and video that do an excellent job of presenting the hand laying process.  I highly recommend visiting the website as it has a ton of information that is useful even if you plan to build turnouts without the assembly fixtures.

1.        The turnout templates that are available as pdf files on the Fast Tracks website are extremely useful.  I used them extensively in the planning of my new layout, especially when it came to the design of the Proviso yard.  First, I printed and cut out the turnouts out at 25% of full size and then used our kitchen table to lay out possible yard designs.  Using this information I was able to draw up a vague track plan that I used to build the bench work.  I then cut out full size templates to lay out the final track plan onto the bench work.

2.       The templates are also very useful for laying the ties down on the roadbed for the turnout.  Fast Tracks sells laser cut “QuickSticks” tie that appear to easily attach to the finished turnouts.  At a cost of $7.08 per turnout, using individual ties from Micro Engineering was much more cost effective (about  $.80 per turnout).  Using the template, I make my own quicksticks by gluing the individual ties to the template with white glue.  I then glue my quicksticks to the roadbed using more white glue.  The assembled turnout is then installed on top of the ties.  This procedure will make it impossible to reuse the turnout ties in the event I ever tear this layout out.  But, if I get another 19 years of fun out of this layout like I did with the Rochelle Subdivision, this will be okay with me.  The turnout itself should still be salvageable.

3.       The point forming tool and stock rail filing tool are also very useful.  They both make filing the rails a snap, which is very important because filing the rails can be a real pain and one of the more difficult aspects of building your own turnouts.   The point forming tool also serves as a frog forming tool.  This is why there are different point forming tools for each turnout number.  However, I found that when using the slots for frog forming, I was not able to get the frog point as sharp as I wanted which made it impossible to get the frog point far enough into the wing rails to eliminate wheel drop as the wheels go through the frog.  I ended up using the point forming slots for both the frog point as well as the switch points.  The point forming slots allow you to file the rail at a much steeper angle so that you end up with a much sharper frog point which can be positioned further into the wing rails in order to eliminate wheel drop.    So, I do not plan to purchase a #8 point forming tool when I order the #8 assembly fixture.  I’ll just continue to use the #10 point forming tool for both sizes of turnouts.

4.       The assembly fixture itself is great and a lot of fun to use.  I don’t really think it saves all that much time compared to building a turnout without the fixture, but it does make it a lot easier, relaxing and fun. I definitely recommend the fixture for these reasons alone, especially if you have a lot of turnouts to build as I do.  What I really like about the fixture, though, is that it helps me build much more precise turnouts than I am able to do without the fixture.  In other words, the turnouts I am building today are much better turnouts than I built for the Rochelle Sub. They look better and they operate better.  Each one I built for the Rochelle Sub needed adjusting and tweaking after it was installed before I had a smooth, trouble free turnout.  Some needed so much work that I ended up tearing them out and starting over with a new turnout.  Every one of the twelve I have installed so far work very smoothly with only minor point filing needed after installation.  In my view the assembly fixture is well worth the money if you are building a lot of turnouts.  I am planning to purchase the #8 fixture in the near future.

5.       The Fox Valley wheel sets seem to be a perfect match for turnouts built with the assembly fixtures.  Cars equipped with the Fox Valley wheel sets simply glide through the turnouts without the slightest hitch or bump.   It’s almost as if the cars were on straight rails.  I have had less luck with the Atlas metal wheel sets as they are not as perfectly gauged as the Fox Valley wheels are.  Once the Atlas metal wheel sets are properly gauged, they also work fine with the turnouts.  No derailments, but still not as smooth as the Fox Valley

6.       I highly recommend viewing the many videos on the Fast Tracks website as they are very informative, even if you do not plan to purchase any of their products.  I found the video on soldering especially informative.

The Fast Tracks system is great and in my view, well worth the cost.  The tools are easy to use and a lot of fun.  I believe the average modeler should be able to build excellent turnouts using the system.   The big deciding factor is the number of turnouts that are needed.  With Atlas code 55 turnouts running about $10 each, you will need to build around 20 to 30 turnouts of each size for the assembly fixtures to be cost competitive.   Other factors to consider are time, looks and operation.  Hand laid turnouts will add about 90 minutes of work for each turnout.  In my opinion hand laid looks much better that the Atlas turnouts.  As far as operation goes, I do not have any experience with the Atlas turnouts, but I know hand laid turnouts operate flawlessly and likely are better than the Atlas turnouts.

Here’s a link to some pictures of progress to date on the UPRR Geneva Subdivision.

Daryl

Got quite a bit done since the last update.  Installed and painted the backdrop and installed cork roadbed on over half of the mainline.  I’m doing something a little different for the mainline roadbed.  I want the mainline to be noticeable higher than the non-mainline track and simply higher overall to really establish it as class 1 mainline track.  I’ve always noticed that prototype class 1 mainline track, ie UP double track line through Northern Illinois, looks more substantial than it appear on the Rochelle Sub or other N Scale layouts.  With this in mind, I decided that the mainline track on the Geneva Sub would have an extra layer of cork.  Two layers of regular N scale cork roadbed seemed to be too high (.25 inch or 40 scale inches)  So I am using a layer of 1/16″ cork under the regular 1/8 inch N scale cork roadbed for a total of 3/16 or 30 scale inches. Also, this will make the mainline 1/16″ or 10 scale inches higher than non-mainline track. I purchased the 1/16″ cork in 10″X36″ sheets from a local Science Supply Store and cut it into strips with a paper cutter. In the video, you can see a section where the 1/16″ cork is down, but the top layer has not yet been laid.
I’ve been really happy with the way things are turning out so far. With a minimum mainline radius of 36″, the curves look really good. I have also decided to have all #10 turnouts on the mainline and #8 turnouts in the yard, sidings, etc. I think having these minimums is really going to make the trackwork and the entire layout looking much more prototypical.

Here’s the link to the video. I plan on taking pictures tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94GBafYCuEQ

Daryl

I posted this on some of the forums so I though it would be a good idea to post it here as well.

 www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAfZHcPsYbc

The track plan is being laid out on the plywood subroadbed.  I have been using turnout templates from www.handlaidtrack.com.  The templates are extremely useful.  The yard is laid out with #8 turnouts.  There are 10 storage tracks with the longest 8.5 feet long and the shortest 3.75 feet long.  The two longest tracks will be used for incoming and outgoing trains.  The other 8 tracks will be used for classifying/sorting trains.  The two outermost tracks will used used as run around tracks.  The double track mainline can be seen to the left of the yard.   This weekend I plan to saw the subroadbed out of the plywood and permanently attach it to the benchwork.